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I will call over this regular meeting of
the public safety civil rights Emergency

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Management Committee. Today is July fifteenth
two thousand and fifteen I am Council

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member of one yang chair of this committee
with me today our council members were

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Sammy Norden our Maisano and right in the
Council President Johnson will be joining

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us shortly we have. Ten items on our agenda
today of those items eight or consent

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items and to our discussion items and we
will address the first AIDS consent items

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so the first item is takes up the
resolution or accepting a resolution of

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a grand award of five hundred forty thousand
dollars from female for two thousand

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and fourteen regional assistance to
firefighters Act grant that is shared grant

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with the same Paul fire departments in
this will be referred to ways and means

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second item is authorizing an execution of

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a contract with him PH A For Sergeant
investigator to promote the integrity and

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accountability in the house and twist
program through investigation of alleged

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criminal activity in suspected fraud by
Section eight participants in the mounds of

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one hundred eight thousand eight
hundred twenty five dollars for

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a period of one you're referring of ways
and means as well third item is authorize

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a contract. Or contract execution of two
years with in county or district court

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directing the police department to provide
drug court with research and monitoring

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services and serve as

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a liaison between the police department
in the Corps for forty three thousand

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dollars per year for

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a period of two years this will be referred
to Ways and Means or that I'm is to

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accept a resolution except by resolution

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a grant of twenty five thousand dollars
from the woman's foundation to be used to

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host

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a training related to investigative techniques
related to trafficking crimes victim

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identification and recovery in combat
trafficking this will be referred to ways and

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means if item is accepting
the resolution of

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a donation of fifteen thousand dollars
from the target foundation to be used to

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support

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a community in Gauge men's and related
project cost referred to ways and means six

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item is exceptional by resolution

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a donation of three hundred fifty thousand
eight hundred fifty eight dollars from

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the State Department of Commerce the support
of the existing out of the prevention

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program for two years referred to Ways and
Means. Sometime authorizing in amendment

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to the contract with the University of
Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine for

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canine that Mary Cary. Increasing by ten
thousand dollars and extending for the

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period July first two thousand and fourteen
through June thirtieth two thousand and

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fifteen to be referred to Ways and Means
and the eight item is accepting by

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resolution J.G.

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Jag award for funding
to help in county for

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a total of two hundred forty three thousand
one hundred thirty dollars and this

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will be referred to ways and means council
members any questions on the consent

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items say none all those in favor
please say I I any oppose.

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Item number nine is the impeding
body camera update reports and this.

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This one part would be to report back on

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a city council action on June fifth two
thousand and fifteen which directed the

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office of grants and special projects in
collaboration with the many apples police

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department to develop

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a list of any and all grant opportunities
related to the purchase maintenance and

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ongoing use of body cameras in addition
staff shall consult with your jurisdictions

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implementing body him. To identify and
leverage all potential funding opportunities

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which may be OK over the city
of Minneapolis and this is

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a report back to us on top of

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a report about our body cam program that
has happened for the past year or so so.

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With that Deputy Chief Lamping Welcome thank
you Mr Chairman thank you for the time

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today. We're coming in sandwiched in
between a couple of events we came to you

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a few weeks ago and asked
for permission to apply for

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a Department of Justice grant for

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a body cameras which was approved and
is awaiting consideration out in D.C.

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And we also have upcoming A report back
to the audit committee by the city's

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internal auditor on the body Cameron's So
we want to take this opportunity to come

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forward and just give

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a brief update on where we are with the
body cameras with those two events having

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taken place

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a couple things to note we have yet
to begin contract negotiations with

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a vendor for full deployment of the body
cameras so I want to be very careful today

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about giving any specifics that would
jeopardize those negotiations or in essence

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negotiate in public because we don't want
to damage any kind of opportunity we have

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in negotiations with those companies because
as we told with the audit or with the

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grant it's going to be

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a. Costly endeavor for us to go through
so we want to make sure we have every

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advantage in opportunity we have with
those with those companies but that being

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said

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a quick update on where we're at so back
in November we. Were deployed thirty six

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of these cameras across three of our precincts
covering all shifts of varieties of

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officers we created over seven thousand
videos in the six months that we tested we

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actually ended our testing in mid May
when we came to the end of our local

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storage and just

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a quick recap the first four months
we tested taser products which used

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a cloud based storage system. We
purposely then chose to use all mobile

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storage system with

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a view cameras and we learned that that
system really ate up space quickly and

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rather than spend more money on more storage
we ended the test period in May after

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we got all the information we needed on the
performance of The View camera and knew

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that we could give

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a really good comparison between
the two. You know through through

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the testing we wanted to get feedback from
our officers and our partners like the

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prosecutors and we really did it that testing
process gave us the data that we were

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looking for the feedback we were looking
for and it's really going to help us make

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a selection and do it very. Very
informed decision the officer feedback

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was very positive we actually had officers
when they were told to turn in their

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cameras asked if they could keep them and
keep using them for me that really told

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us how effective the program was and I think
gave me confidence that it's not going

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to be

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a difficult hill to get over and getting
officers to utilize these cameras I was

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very happy to hear that when officers were
demanding to use these things. Most of

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videos I watched were for the most part
positive they were professional and quite

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honestly they were some of the most Monday
and video you've ever seen it showed

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cops doing what they do every day interacting
with people making traffic stops. But

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we did have some really interesting
videos we had an officer saving

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a life performing C.P.R.

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In one of these videos with
an officer on his way to

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a part time job in North Minneapolis
ended up getting in a foot pursuit with

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a suspect in

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a double homicide and that person was just
sentenced to fifty five years this week

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pled guilty and it captures the officer
where he found the gun that the guy threw

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it was

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a really intriguing piece of video I don't
know if that's what cotton if that's

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what caused the suspect the plead guilty
but I'm going to hold out hope that that

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video played

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a part in it that the interaction
between the officer and the suspect and

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a phone another video where

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a complaint was made against an
officer that he violently pushed

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a person the body cam video when I looked
at it involve the officer putting his arm

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I'm going No sir you can't walk in the
street in gently guiding the person back up

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to the sidewalk that complaint ended in
literally two seconds as soon as that video

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was over we knew that that complaint was
not how it was written and that the

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officer did everything right just three
highlights I could go on and on about the

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videos but those are the things we're
seeing in the videos themselves it was

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a really good pilot program we're happy
with the results and excited about the

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opportunity to go forward and going forward
here's the timeline we're looking at

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now to give you a quick update there
like I said the grant is out in D.C.

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Waiting consideration we are expected to
hear in October I don't know if that means

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up Kolb or first October
thirty first we're taking

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a realistic approach that it's probably
going to be mid November. That's just the

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way things go there's

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a lot of agencies applying for these grants
we've learned and we you know again it

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could come October first that would be
great if it did but we're going to be

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realistic in think it's probably going to
be later rather than sooner Meanwhile we

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are going to begin to go she ations
with her to vendors to. They have to be

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generalized because we cannot get too
specific in the number of cameras we're going

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to buy the amount of things we're going to
buy that sort of thing because we do not

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want to supplant the grant and have the
Department of Justice come back and go oh

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you've taken too many steps forward on this
you don't qualify anymore we want to be

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very careful that we do not affect their
ability to get this grant by over

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negotiating but we want to be in

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a position when that grant comes out that
our negotiations are just about done and

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that we can get things going as soon as
possible after we get notification on the

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grant one way or another.
The So again we're

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looking at November possibly the problem
that we're going to see is your window

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gets really short as

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a council in November and December is
probably the worst time of the year to come

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to you and say here's what we're looking
for we finalized everything because as you

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know there's not

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a whole opportunity in those two months
we're going to do the best we can that when

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that grant comes back we can get everything
we need to in front of the council in

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the necessary committees so that we can
get these things rolled out. We'd like to

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start March simply March first starting
to deploy the cameras again kind of

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dependent on other timelines and then
going from there we're expecting about

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a five to six month time period to get
them completely rolled out to the to the

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department it's going to take about four
months for each precinct we have to set up

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I keyed infrastructure in each precinct we
have to be very deliberate how we train

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you just don't throw five six hundred of
these cameras out and go go get them you

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have to be slow to liberate and training
so that everybody knows what they're doing

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and they have to provide aftercare we just
again can't throw him out there and go

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good luck we have to be around to make
sure everybody knows what they're doing

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another important piece that we are
waiting on and that is our own the public

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feedback and public comment we're going
to be receiving from the police conduct

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oversight committee they are currently
the process of conducting three public

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public listening sessions and their report
is due back in September once we have

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that report we'll be able to formulate or
full policy that will be in place once

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the body cameras go out we'll be looking
to it unfortunately our contracts with the

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two vendors and at the end of September
we're going to be going to both vendors and

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asking if they would be willing to extend
those contracts so we do not have to go

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back through a second R.F.P.

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Process and I am assuming both both vendors
have been very responsive to the entire

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process I don't see

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a problem there some of the issues that we
see going forward that are going to have

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to be dealt with the first one is data
practice issues that by far and away seems

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to be the biggest issue out there what do
we do with all this video once we have it

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mean just in the six months with thirty
six officers we collect it seven thousand

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videos once we have all you know five
to six hundred officers of cameras we

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anticipate at least a thousand videos

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a day we're going to collect. Right now
the legislature has been silent on what

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they are going to do as far as classification
they gave some indication with the

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bills that were put forward but they
did not get brought to the floor for

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a vote or anything like that so we're kind
of left in the lurch there knowing what

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the ruling is going to be on what's public
what's private what we can get about

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what we can we don't have to. That's going
to be the big issue with these things.

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When we get requests them give us all your
body camera video which we have it is

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a time consuming and it is

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a labor intensive process so we're waiting
to hear back more on that we'll continue

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to deal with that obviously privacy concerns
are something that's that's out there

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that will be part of our policy and we're
going to receive public comments on that

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and then changing technology it's interesting
all the companies as soon as one

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changes something it's like anything else
they've all kind of caught up with each

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other and the next one does it better
it's like buying a computer you buy

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a computer today and there's another better
one out there tomorrow so we're also

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trying to make sure we leverage and are
negotiations to get the best most current

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technology when it comes out and
then if I could just quickly address

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with the assistance of counsel member palm
Sano to make sure I've got it all and

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you know everything accurate. The
staff directive we met with our

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federal consultants. Along with I.G.R.

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To discuss the funding available in
what we learned was there is not

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a lot out there the only funding that
they knew of was the grant that we were

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applying for. Its minor standing based on
what they said that that is it any other

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federal money is tied up in other programs
other grants and as far as working with

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other agencies to seek funding
we also learned that it's

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a very competitive process and we essentially
are competing with the likes of St

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Paul along with all of their cities our
size everybody's getting on board at the

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same time so it's

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a very competitive and we're getting
together with another agency is not going to

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be something that we're going to be able
to do with any effectiveness so with that

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Mr Chair and like to turn it over to any
questions that I might be able to answer.

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For the committee thank you do sing
clamping. Council President Johnson. Thank

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you Mr Chairman keep going we did we get
to use the promise them to us that nation

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in this application I cannot answer
for certain on that but I know what

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that something that I G.R.

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And I believe the mayor's office we're
looking into with the Department of Justice

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there was nothing up front that said that
says this boxer check this box we're

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going to give you

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a five extra points so I do hope though
that our I guess inquiries and that

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some attention out in D.C.

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And kind of checked

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a couple boxes in people's minds there
thank you notes member almost on

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a. Thank you Mr Chair Thank you Chief
Graham pay for your presentation I too was

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surprised and just wanted to the knowledge
that. When President Obama had said

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there'd be seventy to seventy five million
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these programs that I was surprised and I
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our federal partners that only seventeen
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so that does put us in a little bit of

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a less the shinning going after things
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a lot of costs in these kinds of programs
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practices stuff is not eligible and that's
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engaging in the consul commit really
thinking through this from that we're really

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looking to lead on policy here as we go in
and figure out what that policy might be

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to help the state come up with their policy
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figure that out especially here where
everything is presumed open if I'm not

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mistaken where Whereas in Washington D.C.

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For example and in those body camera programs
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the initial piece So

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a question that I have as we went
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I'm not clear about this before but just
so the everybody's clear is the eventual

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idea that police body worn cameras
will be on anytime that officer is

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on duty up whether it be their off duty
work because the city's indemnifying them

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as are police officers or on the
regular ships is or is there any

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protocol that's been suggested or affirmed
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. Absolutely Mr Chair council member.
Saw speak to just in general

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first we are going to have in in the vast
majority of departments have criteria

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when the cameras either shall go on
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economically and practically not feasible
to turn him on at the beginning of the

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shift and just let him run number one the
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nightmare that would exist from
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a nonstarter so the next most important
thing we can do in this is where we're

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looking for public feedback we're looking
at policies from other departments to

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find best practices when do our officers
have to turn him on when should they turn

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him on and when should they turn him off
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that's where we want to be the leader in
you and I talked about that we want our

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policy to be the one that people look at
and all of that's what we want to do walk

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away there's a lot of guidance out
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Like the Police Executive Research Forum
perp who've put out excellent guides on

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that So absolutely there will be times
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off and that's what we're working on for

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a pilot project everything said you should
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that there will be Shalvey
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a traffic stop yet you have to turn it on
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for the pilot project to allow us to gather
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all the public feedback from the P C O
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blanked on the second part of your like
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is going to like you had mentioned before
part time jobs but also read with the

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protocol be regardless of when or where
they're working right so I would just touch

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on that we changed about midway through
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using these cameras we allowed them to then
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the pilot this is something we're going to
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Federation because it is going to deal with
officers having to go to their precinct

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to pick up their cameras to get them for
their part time jobs so in an ideal world

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yes we would want our officers wearing these
cameras at their part time jobs but we

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have to make sure we. Do the kind of the
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how that best is going to be put into place
when we're telling officers you have to

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go pick this camera up so that's this
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thought about it and this is a good that's

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a good example that we have
here because we can point to

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a success story of why it's important
that we would want officers to have these

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cameras on at the park. Thank
you. Members and other questions

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these England be just

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a couple of quick questions the three six
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work with lot of cameras did you all do

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a survey of all of them to see what their
general sentiments were with regards to

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the usage of the body amorous Yes We
reached out to all of them we received

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feedback from most of them not everybody
gave us I mean we did get feedback of you

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know What camera did you like best and
the answer was none of them. But for the

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most part we did get to get that
feedback from them and what did you like

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specifically about the cameras What didn't
you and those are things that are going

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to go into our negotiations in our final
selection and we said all along to the

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officers and their import by far and always
the most important aspect of what we're

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going to use to make

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a selection of the best camera for them
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and we also did various sessions along the
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the vendors to work on different solutions
like different ways that where the

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camera's different mounting aspect so
absolutely we were really pleased that they

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were able to give us that feedback throughout
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of of the police officers from the thirty
six who were most resistant to having.

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Body cams you know in the departments and
did they change their minds not through

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words. What sense did you get from. I
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those officers necessarily change their
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the officers that came in and said Can I
keep my camera are the ones who we've seen

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in the Navy certain situations like an
internal affairs or and potentially who may

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have been a part of a lawsuit
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a lawsuit what is it's those officers who
really impressed me that they said that I

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want to keep this camera and that spoke
volumes to me that the you know those are

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the ones that came
forward and said This is

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a good thing in terms of people's demeanor
as were the officers demeanor is I hear

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that people are much nicer when they're
on camera is that accurate I haven't seen

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anything yet where an officer somebody was
absolutely belligerent and the officer

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said hey I'm recording and they
change their behavior I saw

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a lot of good behavior on both sides right
from the get go and I don't know if the

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people knew they were
being recorded there was

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a lot of publicity out there to say we
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looking for it was very obvious
when an officer was wearing

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a camera on the side of their head or had
this black box. Again it just made for

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a lot of Monday in videos when there was

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a pleasant conversation and we couldn't ask
for more that point so and again did it

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change officers behavior it may of it
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probably in that what we saw on the video
was very representative of what we would

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expect from our officers OK thank you any
other questions All right thank you thank

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you. So for

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a number nine I will move to receive an
updated report on body cam program you need

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this question. All right seeing on all
those in favor police say adding I need

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clothes OK that carries right
the tenth item is. Receiving

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a right rip and filing

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a report that action research team on sex
offender concentration report and going

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to do a little. Background information
for our council members here. This was

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a resolution that was passed sometime in
March of two thousand and thirteen and you

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know let me let me read

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a little bit from the from the resolution
just. Folks information says that

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somewhere as on January first two thousand
and thirteen there were two thousand

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five hundred twenty two registered sex
offenders that live work or go to school in

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Minneapolis whereas the concentration of
registered sex offenders occurs in areas

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of the city populated mainly by non-majority
people who are areas in which many of

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the residents live at were below the
poverty line and where as registered sex

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offenders are concentrated in the Minneapolis
neighborhoods of Camden near north

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north Lou Phillips in power one
and. From the resolution one of

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the directors was to the city council
directed staff in the opposite the

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City it turning the regulatory Services
Department the commute planning an economic

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development department the interim
governmental relations office the health and

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families or departments in the Minneapolis
Police Department and anyone else. To

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work together and with their partners in
the county state and federal governments

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that dress the problem of concentration
of predatory offenders in Minneapolis and

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this was you know this was a saturation or

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a resolution that came about twenty eight
months ago and here we are of with

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a report and so with that being said and
director corporal is going. Mr cheering

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committee members thank you for your time
this afternoon as Council received we are

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here this afternoon to present the
results of action research. And

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request that the city council receive in
fall the action research team to port on

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the concentration of sex offenders as

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a committee chair at Yang mention the
two twenty thirteen resolution was

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a way for the city of Minneapolis to
acknowledge that neighborhoods that already

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run negatively impacted by social economic
inequities were also having these

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negative experiences compound it by the
over population of registered sex offenders

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and they passed the resolution that
customer Yang read an excerpt from that

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basically we would work together with
county state and federal governments to

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address the problem of concentration of
predatory offenders in Minneapolis so an

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action research team was created around the
early fall of two thousand and thirteen

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and the task of their research team was
really to answer for basic questions if

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their concentration where is it happening
why is it happening and if they are

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anything to be done about it and their
research team undertook to answer these

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questions to get us away from merely
express an opinion and speculation as to

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really trying to cook information together
that would give us some valid answers to

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these questions. There are several members
of the action research team who are and

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the room today and several who indicated
that they would be here and they might

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comment at some point during the presentation
but Sergeant Darren allow it from the

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Minneapolis Police Department I saw Mark
Levin from the Minnesota Department of

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Corrections day and K.

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Is here or was here from our if you can
and Nancy Dunlap retired lieutenant from

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the mini up of Police Department I see
Nancy in the track Melissa left from our

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communications and government relations
office indicated that she would be here

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Mary Mowen had only I didn't want to
communicate I know I got an e-mail from her

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that he was going to try to be here and is
from him in County Community Corrections

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and Rehabilitation Avenue Rulon from the
Council on Crime and justice and Susan

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Segal our city attorney and I don't know
he's planning on being here in person

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today or not but that's just

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a few of the names of the people who stayed
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during the course of the project
so what is action research

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so this is

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a different kind of research the most
people are familiar with because you're

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probably most familiar with scientific
research where you're using control groups

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and in tunes that sampling and testing
you're trying to reach conclusions that are

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significantly of statistically
significant but actual research is

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a little bit different from that and
it's actually work that is conducted by

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a group of practitioners
concentrated around

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a focus area for this our focus area was
concentration of registered sex offender

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in Minneapolis and Hennepin County and the
group the action research team seeks to

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understand and analyze policies practices
and trends with the expectation that that

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work through that work is going to
improve outcomes. So I am not doing the

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presentation they are presenter in committee
this afternoon as Dr Lauren Martin who

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is the director of research of the Urban
Research our region engagement center or

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your rock that's located
in North Minneapolis is

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a University of Minnesota
institution there were off

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a million with Dr Martin with nationally
recognized for her groundbreaking breaking

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research in the area of sex trading
and sex trafficking prevention she is

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recognized as an expert on community engaged
research methods and oversees you're

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right scholarly research projects
in Grant operations Dr Martin is

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a researcher with the university's Children
Youth and Family consortium and the

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Center for early education and development
and professor at the Humphrey School of

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Public Affairs she received her doctoral
degree in anthropology and historical

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studies from the New School for Social
Research in New York she's the author of

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numerous community and scholarly publications
and the principal investigator on

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several research projects including mapping
the market for juvenile sex trafficking

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in Minneapolis the north side she
meant zone Community Survey and

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a validation study of the north side of
family Cademy So while Dr Martin makes her

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way to the lectern I'd also like to thank
her colleagues there Axtell who was

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really involved in the research work there
is also at your rock and then our of our

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faith Jackson that I think I introduced
once before that bape was an urban scholar

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and

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a third year lost during that research
project she was really helpful in putting

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a lot of this work together and. The fact.

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I wasn't expecting that introduction. Thank
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you have

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a present so. OK Sure thank you Will somebody
tell me when I can't see the clock is

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there someone I should be I love you
Mark about five minutes or so I'm sure

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hopefully we won't go that long my intention
is really to give you some highlights

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and if you have questions comments members
of the team are here hopefully they can

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step forward on some of the technical
questions I'm really pleased to be here to

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share some of the results of the work that
we've been doing over the last couple of

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years. So what I'm going
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a presentation. The information we want
to share we wanted to describe action

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research which actually director core Korbel
did an excellent job so I'll probably

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skip that portion of the
presentation and we want to talk

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a little bit about who made up our team and
why we selected the people that we did

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. Or people self selected to join the team

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a little more on the research questions but
again director core will cover that so

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we'll move quickly I'm going to spend

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a little bit of time on the research process
because I think it's important that

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you understand how the information came
together in the way that it did. Try to

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move through those procedural parts

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a little bit quickly so we can get to the
results which is probably what you're

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most interested in and so we'll spend

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a little bit of time with highlights
of what we found there will be

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a full report which will be much longer
we're still working on those final details

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with the recommendations but when the full
report is completed we'll obviously make

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that available widely and I will talk

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a little bit about next steps. So I want
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played in this project was. As

435
00:33:23,52 --> 00:33:29,40
a facilitator so the action research team
itself were the content experts on the

436
00:33:29,41 --> 00:33:35,32
people who really know this object what
you rock did we provided facilitation to

437
00:33:35,33 --> 00:33:39,92
help pull the group together to help
the group come to consensus about the

438
00:33:39,93 --> 00:33:45,19
questions we wanted to ask them what data
we wanted to pull together and then the

439
00:33:45,20 --> 00:33:50,45
team really from their position of being
experts brought in the data and the

440
00:33:50,46 --> 00:33:53,81
knowledge that came together
to create the report

441
00:33:58,53 --> 00:34:03,90
so in any action research team the
goal is to hold together people from.

442
00:34:05,50 --> 00:34:09,00
All sides of an issue so oftentimes
it's and it's taken me in

443
00:34:09,01 --> 00:34:13,02
a contentious issue like sex offender
concentration it'll be people who are

444
00:34:13,03 --> 00:34:13,49
normally in

445
00:34:13,50 --> 00:34:17,06
a room together having conversations and
that's part of the process bring people

446
00:34:17,07 --> 00:34:23,44
together across different silos and have
these conversations really hash it out

447
00:34:23,45 --> 00:34:28,28
come to consensus so we we want to have
obviously representatives from corrections

448
00:34:28,29 --> 00:34:33,24
law enforcement we want to have service
providers who are working with offenders as

449
00:34:33,25 --> 00:34:38,17
they are coming into the community state
in the elected officials as well as policy

450
00:34:38,18 --> 00:34:43,10
makers and then community members because
obviously the community members are the

451
00:34:43,11 --> 00:34:47,11
ones that are potentially impacted
by the issue in their neighborhoods

452
00:34:50,15 --> 00:34:54,97
I'm not going to read this list of who all
participated it's in your note just to

453
00:34:55,29 --> 00:34:58,65
give you a sense of who was
coming to the meetings on

454
00:34:58,65 --> 00:35:03,72
a fairly regular basis and we did meet
every other month starting in September.

455
00:35:05,94 --> 00:35:09,50
Again I'm not going to read this slide
to you we want to provide you some

456
00:35:09,51 --> 00:35:15,97
definitions. One thing that I want to note
early on the team spent several meetings

457
00:35:15,98 --> 00:35:20,23
discussing OK What is the parameter of
what we're looking at here and we actually

458
00:35:20,24 --> 00:35:26,89
redefined our charge so instead of focusing
on sex offenders we are focusing on

459
00:35:26,90 --> 00:35:29,98
predatory offenders who are
required to register this is

460
00:35:29,99 --> 00:35:32,39
a technical term that
matches the legislation

461
00:35:32,40 --> 00:35:37,99
a little bit better and it made it easier
to do data polls across the state sex

462
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,70
offender was sort of a looser
term so we wanted to get

463
00:35:40,71 --> 00:35:45,49
a little more precise in that that took
so meetings to kind of come together on

464
00:35:45,50 --> 00:35:51,76
a consensus and I do want to just read.
What our charge was so you're really clear

465
00:35:52,11 --> 00:35:57,58
in our analysis sex offender includes all
persons who are required to register as

466
00:35:57,59 --> 00:36:02,79
a predatory offender at all those ignitions
and those who register but do not have

467
00:36:02,80 --> 00:36:08,56
a designation as you can imagine it took
us several meetings to really hone in on

468
00:36:09,48 --> 00:36:14,71
and agree on what our definition would be
Oh one other thing I want to note on this

469
00:36:14,72 --> 00:36:18,92
slide. We had a we also had

470
00:36:18,93 --> 00:36:24,69
a lot of conversation about what does
concentration mean is it clustering what

471
00:36:24,70 --> 00:36:25,34
constitutes

472
00:36:25,35 --> 00:36:29,58
a concentration we did look to the research
literature on this question and I have

473
00:36:29,59 --> 00:36:34,61
to say it was pretty all over the place
so for us we're really just looking at

474
00:36:34,62 --> 00:36:40,31
areas that have more predatory offenders
than other areas so we have kind of

475
00:36:40,32 --> 00:36:46,29
a looser definition of concentration.
So for our research questions I think

476
00:36:46,30 --> 00:36:50,63
Director Korbel did a great job of
going over them but again this was

477
00:36:50,64 --> 00:36:55,24
a consensus the group came to about what
our questions would be first we want to

478
00:36:55,25 --> 00:37:00,65
look at what is the community impact of
predatory offender concentration What is

479
00:37:00,66 --> 00:37:04,91
the current picture of predatory offenders
reentry in Minneapolis and Hennepin

480
00:37:04,92 --> 00:37:06,61
County sort of where are they

481
00:37:07,42 --> 00:37:12,36
a question and then what are the policies
and procedures surrounding predatory

482
00:37:12,37 --> 00:37:16,45
offender release and supervision so that
kind of gets to the how how is that

483
00:37:16,78 --> 00:37:20,38
predatory offenders ended up
residing where they where they live.

484
00:37:24,87 --> 00:37:30,23
Another hallmarks of actual research is
you try to use as many different research

485
00:37:30,24 --> 00:37:35,11
methods of seem to fit the question or
issue that you're trying to solve so we we

486
00:37:35,12 --> 00:37:35,74
pulled together

487
00:37:35,75 --> 00:37:39,72
a lot of different methods and again I'm
not going to go over all this in detail

488
00:37:40,08 --> 00:37:44,61
but just know that we pulled together data
from the agencies that were involved we

489
00:37:44,62 --> 00:37:50,25
interviewed people. We looked at the
Minnesota statutes and regulations and

490
00:37:50,26 --> 00:37:51,95
policies and then we did

491
00:37:51,96 --> 00:37:57,56
a brief survey of predatory offenders
and I'll share some of those

492
00:38:00,28 --> 00:38:03,41
and here's our timeline I think it's
important to see sort of what we were

493
00:38:03,42 --> 00:38:09,68
projecting and then kind of where we are
so as was already stated we we began in

494
00:38:10,05 --> 00:38:15,51
earnest in fall two thousand and thirteen
we spent quite a bit of time defining as

495
00:38:15,52 --> 00:38:20,75
a group our parameters our intention was
to secure funding in the end we decided to

496
00:38:20,76 --> 00:38:23,97
do the work. More as

497
00:38:23,98 --> 00:38:27,76
a volunteer group so all of us
came there and we didn't have

498
00:38:28,12 --> 00:38:33,01
a kid funding for the group but each entity
that came to the table kind of put put

499
00:38:33,02 --> 00:38:39,80
something on the table for the team to
work. I think the biggest obstacle in

500
00:38:39,81 --> 00:38:45,08
our project timeline so we are we we are
not finishing when we hope we would we

501
00:38:45,09 --> 00:38:50,39
determined and about January of sorry June
twenty fourteen that we didn't want to

502
00:38:51,35 --> 00:38:53,87
add in a fender survey so that took quite

503
00:38:53,88 --> 00:38:59,09
a bit of time to pull together and implement
which changed our timeline so you can

504
00:38:59,10 --> 00:39:05,39
see were anticipating that the project will
wrap up with our final report in August

505
00:39:05,57 --> 00:39:11,17
twenty fifteen typo on your slot
there twenty fifteen on the left

506
00:39:12,85 --> 00:39:19,84
OK. One of the things that we try

507
00:39:19,86 --> 00:39:25,49
to do is bring people to the table to to
do work on this project that we pulled

508
00:39:25,50 --> 00:39:30,48
together capstone project from the Humphrey
School of Public Affairs and really

509
00:39:30,48 --> 00:39:34,48
there being goal was to scour the literature
that was not something that our team

510
00:39:34,66 --> 00:39:39,05
was in a good position to do. So just

511
00:39:39,06 --> 00:39:44,16
a couple of highlights from the literature.
Really what the national literature is

512
00:39:44,18 --> 00:39:50,46
saying on this issue housing is the primary
driver of Concentra predatory offender

513
00:39:50,47 --> 00:39:54,79
clustering and concentration and by that
we mean lack of affordable housing and

514
00:39:54,80 --> 00:39:59,83
lack of housing that will landlords
who will rent to predatory lenders.

515
00:40:02,21 --> 00:40:07,18
They also looked at the literature on re
citizen rates for predatory offenders

516
00:40:08,00 --> 00:40:08,23
there's

517
00:40:08,24 --> 00:40:13,25
a lot of research out there you know and
it's not perfect most most of the research

518
00:40:13,26 --> 00:40:19,06
literature focuses on recidivism with
the definition of reconviction not

519
00:40:19,07 --> 00:40:20,48
necessarily really a
fence you know there's

520
00:40:20,49 --> 00:40:24,47
a difference between what police are seeing
with the rest rates and what ends up

521
00:40:24,48 --> 00:40:28,40
going through the whole system and going
through the conviction so most of the data

522
00:40:28,41 --> 00:40:35,21
on recidivism looks at reconviction And
actually what what the research literature

523
00:40:35,22 --> 00:40:38,79
is suggesting is that the fear of research

524
00:40:38,80 --> 00:40:44,80
a visit for reconviction is higher than
the actual reset of his rates. I'm not

525
00:40:44,81 --> 00:40:47,71
trying to diminish what the resort of ism
rate is because obviously even if it's

526
00:40:47,72 --> 00:40:52,85
a low resort it isn't right these are
particularly heinous crimes so you know we

527
00:40:52,86 --> 00:40:56,79
don't want to discount but that's what
the research literature saying the other

528
00:40:56,80 --> 00:41:02,31
thing that. National literature focused
on is residency restrictions so.

529
00:41:03,36 --> 00:41:09,84
Municipalities that put into place.
Constraints around where sex offenders are

530
00:41:09,85 --> 00:41:13,39
predatory offenders
could live actually has

531
00:41:13,40 --> 00:41:19,64
a side effect of creating clustering in
other locations. And then there is some

532
00:41:19,65 --> 00:41:23,71
literature that suggests that clustering
or concentration of predatory offenders

533
00:41:23,72 --> 00:41:30,72
does impact housing values in that
if if there are even one or two

534
00:41:30,76 --> 00:41:36,95
predatory offenders in the vicinity values
will drop so that's what the national

535
00:41:36,99 --> 00:41:43,49
kind of research literature.
In our Another thing that our

536
00:41:43,50 --> 00:41:48,11
capstone students did was they interviewed
members of our team and then also people

537
00:41:48,90 --> 00:41:55,76
in Minneapolis and again those
interviews just kind of. Focused on.

538
00:41:57,35 --> 00:42:02,57
Lack of affordable housing in transitional
housing. Too few landlords So again

539
00:42:02,58 --> 00:42:09,58
echoing that national literature and they
also looked at the location services and

540
00:42:09,78 --> 00:42:14,72
offender support systems as having an
impact on where predatory offenders are

541
00:42:14,73 --> 00:42:21,11
living. OK so getting to.
A little bit of data.

542
00:42:22,59 --> 00:42:27,39
Really documenting the
concentration so we spent

543
00:42:27,69 --> 00:42:32,33
a significant amount of time trying to
determine where is the best data for us to

544
00:42:32,34 --> 00:42:37,78
pull in order to really document where
sex offenders are sorry where predatory

545
00:42:37,80 --> 00:42:43,06
offenders are living in the end we decided
to go with data from the Minnesota

546
00:42:43,07 --> 00:42:48,99
Department of Corrections. Solid data test
data for the states so we could we can

547
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:52,24
zoom in from the state and kind of
come down and I'll do that for you in

548
00:42:52,26 --> 00:42:58,37
a second with a series of maps. Are
big finding we confirmed there is

549
00:42:59,03 --> 00:43:03,06
a significant concentration of predatory
offenders in the zip codes that were

550
00:43:03,06 --> 00:43:09,23
identified in your city council resolution.
The other thing that we looked at if

551
00:43:09,25 --> 00:43:14,33
you look at. Predatory offenders and
where they're living in Hennepin County

552
00:43:14,75 --> 00:43:19,29
they're the Hennepin County those that are
in place that are in Hennepin County are

553
00:43:19,30 --> 00:43:22,88
really concentrated so when we get
to the maps you'll see that I'm on

554
00:43:22,89 --> 00:43:25,50
a zip through them relatively
quickly because there's

555
00:43:25,51 --> 00:43:30,52
a lot of detail on the maps while we have
circles on there to point your eye so

556
00:43:30,52 --> 00:43:37,48
this first couple of maps are looking
at residents of predatory offenders

557
00:43:38,09 --> 00:43:43,40
all pro-choice centers and then on the
right side are level three predatory

558
00:43:43,41 --> 00:43:49,17
offenders sex. So you can see
this is per capita by county.

559
00:43:50,64 --> 00:43:53,91
So when you zero in on the little circles
around Hennepin County when you look at

560
00:43:53,92 --> 00:44:00,35
the county on all registered
predatory offenders you can see

561
00:44:01,41 --> 00:44:01,61
kind of

562
00:44:01,62 --> 00:44:06,40
a county actually is not looking. Overly
concentrated compared to other counties

563
00:44:06,64 --> 00:44:12,60
but we have to think about. Some of the
counties are rural some of the counties

564
00:44:12,86 --> 00:44:19,08
have far fewer people but when we zoom
in so this is just Hennepin County the

565
00:44:19,09 --> 00:44:26,05
darker areas are. Locations that have more
predatory offenders it's really standing

566
00:44:26,06 --> 00:44:31,07
out even in this zoom out you can see across
and county the predatory offenders are

567
00:44:31,08 --> 00:44:31,78
really in

568
00:44:31,88 --> 00:44:35,84
a couple areas I'm going to zoom in even
more you can really see where they are in

569
00:44:35,85 --> 00:44:41,73
Minneapolis. So that the zip codes are five
five four zero four five five four zero

570
00:44:41,74 --> 00:44:46,40
five but by four one one by five four
one two and five five four three zero.

571
00:44:51,69 --> 00:44:57,80
Yeah sorry I just couldn't contain myself
still curious about if we collected data

572
00:44:57,85 --> 00:45:03,90
about where these individuals lived with
my understanding is most of them lived

573
00:45:03,91 --> 00:45:10,03
within Hennepin County when they got
into the system to where they lived.

574
00:45:11,37 --> 00:45:17,15
Before they got into the system we do not.
Currently because that So we want to run

575
00:45:17,15 --> 00:45:22,69
around on this with our team that data is
in individual case files we would really

576
00:45:22,71 --> 00:45:28,82
it would require significant funding and
time for somebody to go in and sort of

577
00:45:28,83 --> 00:45:33,33
almost hand count that information
it's not available in

578
00:45:33,35 --> 00:45:37,54
a database format. So I
think that we did have

579
00:45:37,55 --> 00:45:41,23
a concern that there were people living all
over the state who ended up moving into

580
00:45:41,24 --> 00:45:45,48
the Hennepin County into Minneapolis I
think your research says that's not

581
00:45:45,49 --> 00:45:48,87
necessarily the case it appears that it's
people who are living in Hennepin County

582
00:45:49,09 --> 00:45:52,82
but so we don't know if they're evenly
dispersed throughout the communities in the

583
00:45:52,83 --> 00:45:56,32
county or where they're actually you know
my assumption is going to be they were

584
00:45:56,33 --> 00:46:03,17
probably more evenly dispersed than
then. So well in that no you have so in

585
00:46:03,18 --> 00:46:06,93
a couple slots I'm actually going to speak
exactly to that question in fact the

586
00:46:06,94 --> 00:46:12,50
next slide. So what this slide there's

587
00:46:12,51 --> 00:46:17,45
a lot information on there so I'm not going
to go over everything on there but took

588
00:46:17,50 --> 00:46:21,59
two points that I really want to point out
first is the total number of predatory

589
00:46:21,60 --> 00:46:25,95
offenders in the concentrated areas of
interest that we were looking at is seven

590
00:46:25,96 --> 00:46:28,77
hundred ninety and rituals. That's quite

591
00:46:28,78 --> 00:46:32,59
a few it turned out to be point seven one
percent of the population of those areas

592
00:46:33,24 --> 00:46:37,50
that's pretty significant I mean it's pretty
high and then I also want to draw your

593
00:46:37,51 --> 00:46:40,05
attention to. So we did

594
00:46:40,06 --> 00:46:43,37
a little sub study and by we I mean the
Minnesota Department of Corrections did

595
00:46:43,38 --> 00:46:49,81
a little examination to get to exactly the
question that you're raising around are

596
00:46:49,82 --> 00:46:54,62
these individuals from within the county
or from outside the county so they did

597
00:46:54,63 --> 00:47:00,38
a sub study of the level three predatory
offenders again is very labor intensive so

598
00:47:00,39 --> 00:47:00,91
they wanted to do

599
00:47:00,92 --> 00:47:06,72
a snapshot and they found that the majority
of the individuals had Hennepin County

600
00:47:06,73 --> 00:47:11,63
governing offenses. Where in Hennepin
County I'm not sure if we know that.

601
00:47:17,39 --> 00:47:21,97
So I think it would require
additional study. And a lot of and

602
00:47:21,98 --> 00:47:27,13
a lot of labor but it doesn't so the
question are we getting predatory offenders

603
00:47:27,14 --> 00:47:32,80
from elsewhere in the state and. It our
research is indicating that no most of the

604
00:47:32,84 --> 00:47:37,97
predatory offenders who are in the county
are have their original offense from

605
00:47:37,98 --> 00:47:44,56
within Hennepin County now how they end up
in the zip codes that's another another

606
00:47:44,57 --> 00:47:51,56
story OK so I understand what
is my time. You've gotten OK

607
00:47:53,28 --> 00:47:54,16
so getting in

608
00:47:54,17 --> 00:47:58,49
a little bit on our second question about
Earth or I'm sorry third question about

609
00:47:58,50 --> 00:48:04,43
understanding the release and supervision
policies. I don't know how familiar you

610
00:48:04,44 --> 00:48:10,16
all are with the policies and
procedures I will say they're.

611
00:48:11,23 --> 00:48:15,67
Complex and there's a there's a lot going
on there so I'm going to zero in on

612
00:48:15,68 --> 00:48:19,93
a few things if you have specific questions
but you have some content experts here

613
00:48:19,94 --> 00:48:26,82
who can answer those questions. The
first thing to note is so in terms of

614
00:48:27,32 --> 00:48:31,94
understanding the release process is there's
relief there's three levels of risk

615
00:48:31,98 --> 00:48:35,80
that get assigned to predatory
offenders who have been in prison or

616
00:48:35,81 --> 00:48:41,25
a correctional facility and those are level
one which is people who are deemed to

617
00:48:41,26 --> 00:48:41,40
have

618
00:48:41,41 --> 00:48:47,63
a lowest public risk level Tuesday moderate
public risk and level three of the highest

619
00:48:47,64 --> 00:48:52,67
public risk in these levels correspond to
the degree of supervision that will be

620
00:48:52,68 --> 00:48:57,76
assigned to that person upon release all
of these decisions are made by the end of

621
00:48:57,77 --> 00:49:03,08
confinement review committee they are the
ones that determine the risk and listed

622
00:49:03,09 --> 00:49:05,19
under slide who who
makes up that committee

623
00:49:05,60 --> 00:49:11,52
a really important point about half. Of the
predatory offenders who are required to

624
00:49:11,53 --> 00:49:13,21
register have been assigned

625
00:49:13,22 --> 00:49:17,21
a level that means they've been in prison
they've been released they've gone

626
00:49:17,22 --> 00:49:21,18
through this end of confinement review
committee and they've been assigned

627
00:49:21,19 --> 00:49:26,73
a level which as I said links up to their
level of supervision that they'll receive

628
00:49:27,61 --> 00:49:28,08
that weaves

629
00:49:28,09 --> 00:49:33,72
a whole other half who are not assigned
risk level but they are required to

630
00:49:33,73 --> 00:49:36,73
register these are individuals
who did not go to

631
00:49:36,74 --> 00:49:42,22
a prison or correctional facility. But
may who may have been released through

632
00:49:42,23 --> 00:49:46,52
probation they might have gone to jail or
the workhouse but they have not gone to

633
00:49:46,53 --> 00:49:51,57
a facility that does this and of
confinement if you so on those half of the

634
00:49:51,58 --> 00:49:58,44
individuals roughly there is no risk level
and so they're not assigned to intensive

635
00:49:58,53 --> 00:50:02,27
supervision it's unknown what's going on
with them so there's these two groups of

636
00:50:02,31 --> 00:50:08,52
vendors. For offenders that are.

637
00:50:10,19 --> 00:50:16,06
The higher risk levels these are risks two
and three they are required to be placed

638
00:50:16,07 --> 00:50:21,55
on what's called intensive supervised
release. And these come with.

639
00:50:23,04 --> 00:50:29,77
Fairly stringent criteria check ins
supervision things along those lines.

640
00:50:31,13 --> 00:50:37,64
Details Beazer The These are the.
Predatory offenders who have the

641
00:50:37,87 --> 00:50:39,10
most contact with

642
00:50:39,14 --> 00:50:42,17
a supervising authority because
they're intensively supervised for

643
00:50:42,18 --> 00:50:48,11
a time and he questions about. That I
don't want to go at all there's a there's

644
00:50:48,12 --> 00:50:51,97
a whole other lot of detail and I think
those are the main points that are

645
00:50:51,98 --> 00:50:58,68
important for you guys to know. I
think Mr Dr Murray and I just these

646
00:50:58,69 --> 00:51:04,89
face to face contacts is that something
that's done at the offenders place of

647
00:51:04,90 --> 00:51:10,56
residence and so that doesn't necessarily
have an impact as to where the circuit

648
00:51:10,69 --> 00:51:17,21
find housing or transit corrector so I don't
want to speak out of turn is anyone on

649
00:51:17,22 --> 00:51:20,46
our team want to. Hear.

650
00:51:24,59 --> 00:51:29,81
Yeah well what was the question she wanted
to know does in the sense of you provide

651
00:51:29,81 --> 00:51:35,16
. Those corrections up to go to the person's
house so that would have less impact

652
00:51:35,17 --> 00:51:41,30
than where they might live because they
don't have. Check in with the registry or

653
00:51:42,05 --> 00:51:46,93
with that correct. So yes
and I asked are will do

654
00:51:46,93 --> 00:51:53,53
a home visit. So yeah it doesn't
require the predatory offender to be

655
00:51:53,53 --> 00:51:59,20
living. Separate. Maybe Sorry if
I'm going to ask for more but.

656
00:52:00,87 --> 00:52:05,10
It doesn't require the predatory offender
to be living in close proximity to

657
00:52:05,10 --> 00:52:09,59
a treatment facility or all
of that the affair OK.

658
00:52:12,52 --> 00:52:17,94
And you know what was going
on OK. I want to share

659
00:52:17,95 --> 00:52:24,94
a little bit of information from our survey
of predatory offenders. You know as our

660
00:52:24,95 --> 00:52:30,10
team was meeting we did have some
conversation did we want to have. Any

661
00:52:30,14 --> 00:52:34,28
representation or voice from predatory
offenders themselves in our process it

662
00:52:34,29 --> 00:52:34,76
seemed like

663
00:52:35,11 --> 00:52:40,58
a good idea it didn't seem appropriate to
invite somebody just sit in the group so

664
00:52:40,59 --> 00:52:42,89
instead what we opted to do was

665
00:52:43,49 --> 00:52:47,91
a snapshot survey. I want to read I
want to be really clear this is not

666
00:52:47,92 --> 00:52:53,51
a representative survey of predatory
offenders rather we worked with.

667
00:52:54,97 --> 00:53:00,73
Hennepin County Department of. Corrections
and Rehabilitation and Minneapolis

668
00:53:00,74 --> 00:53:02,77
Police Department to do

669
00:53:02,78 --> 00:53:08,64
a convenience sample of individuals on their
case loads and really the goal was to

670
00:53:08,65 --> 00:53:08,76
get

671
00:53:08,77 --> 00:53:14,30
a snapshot of. Their boys about why are they
living why do they think they're living

672
00:53:14,31 --> 00:53:19,00
where they live what's what's going
on there. You can imagine we spent

673
00:53:19,04 --> 00:53:20,53
a great deal of time as

674
00:53:20,54 --> 00:53:26,40
a team really figuring out what the
questions we would ask we wanted to make

675
00:53:26,64 --> 00:53:31,60
certain that the work we were doing was not
an ethical in any way or put predatory

676
00:53:31,61 --> 00:53:32,53
offenders in

677
00:53:33,40 --> 00:53:37,45
a bad position we didn't want them to be
compelled to have to answer the survey we

678
00:53:37,46 --> 00:53:42,57
wanted to be totally anonymous you know all
of these things so we zeroed in on five

679
00:53:42,58 --> 00:53:47,44
basic questions where do you currently
live what are the reasons you live in your

680
00:53:47,45 --> 00:53:51,24
current residence which kind of gets to
the heart of what our team was trying to

681
00:53:51,25 --> 00:53:56,61
uncover how did you hear about this place
what part of the city or county do you

682
00:53:56,62 --> 00:54:02,09
live in and is there somewhere you would
rather live so we're trying to get

683
00:54:02,11 --> 00:54:09,04
a sense of what's going on and so the
two groups survey was collected by

684
00:54:09,08 --> 00:54:13,54
the end of and County Department of Community
Corrections and Rehabilitation and

685
00:54:13,55 --> 00:54:20,17
they. Completed fifty five surveys
essentially be officer offered

686
00:54:20,48 --> 00:54:22,04
the survey to

687
00:54:22,17 --> 00:54:26,19
a person when they were working with them
in the survey the person could either say

688
00:54:26,20 --> 00:54:30,04
yes or no and it was all
anonymous and then survey B.

689
00:54:30,30 --> 00:54:35,88
Is data collected by Minneapolis Police
Department when pro-choice offenders

690
00:54:35,89 --> 00:54:40,20
required to register came in for registration
and they collected one hundred five

691
00:54:40,21 --> 00:54:45,30
service and we kept the two groups the two
so we didn't pull the data because it

692
00:54:45,31 --> 00:54:50,55
really is two distinct populations and
when you see the next slide you'll see

693
00:54:50,60 --> 00:54:57,14
you'll see there's some pretty significant
differences between the two groups. So

694
00:54:57,15 --> 00:55:04,02
this one where you live. In the
Hennepin County survey the.

695
00:55:06,08 --> 00:55:12,22
Top one was someone else's home and then
followed closely by Brant So what we can

696
00:55:12,24 --> 00:55:16,61
see here I think the super important
point is the number of individuals who

697
00:55:16,63 --> 00:55:21,30
reported being homeless in the happen Tony
sample is only two so it's relatively

698
00:55:21,31 --> 00:55:26,80
low when you compare. But many
of us police departments survey.

699
00:55:29,07 --> 00:55:33,68
By far and away the highest response of
where you live was homeless at seventy four

700
00:55:33,89 --> 00:55:37,33
and this is a really
important point and there's

701
00:55:37,34 --> 00:55:41,100
a procedural reason for this that I want
to explain because I think it's important

702
00:55:42,01 --> 00:55:47,97
to put this information and context so
homeless registrants people are required to

703
00:55:47,98 --> 00:55:49,68
register after it does ignite

704
00:55:49,69 --> 00:55:56,41
a city where they will register. In
Hennepin County if you're going to select

705
00:55:56,42 --> 00:56:01,06
a city where you might register chances are
it was like Minneapolis because it has

706
00:56:01,07 --> 00:56:05,15
homeless shelters and places where people
can stay and services and support so.

707
00:56:08,28 --> 00:56:14,37
That's information from. Police department
why that homeless population is so high

708
00:56:14,68 --> 00:56:20,12
in the individuals who register with them
weekly. It's because that's where they

709
00:56:20,13 --> 00:56:26,86
have to register I'm explaining that
you guys see what I'm saying. Any

710
00:56:26,87 --> 00:56:31,52
questions about this before and move on
I also do one five minutes OK I want to

711
00:56:31,53 --> 00:56:35,14
make one important point one of the things
that the research literature is quite

712
00:56:35,15 --> 00:56:39,48
clear about. Predatory offenders who are
homeless do have a higher resort it is

713
00:56:39,49 --> 00:56:46,26
a rate so that's something.
To keep in mind. OK

714
00:56:46,27 --> 00:56:51,45
so getting out why so be here's reasons for
the residents in the head of an County

715
00:56:51,46 --> 00:56:55,11
sample the primary reason was that they
live where they live is because it's

716
00:56:55,12 --> 00:57:01,94
affordable and then it's followed by can't
find anywhere else to live again this is

717
00:57:01,95 --> 00:57:05,38
pointing to similar trends that we see in
the national literature around lack of

718
00:57:05,39 --> 00:57:09,22
affordable housing lack of people
who will rent to predatory.

719
00:57:13,34 --> 00:57:18,28
Survey be with the many others Quest
apartment data again remember most of these

720
00:57:18,79 --> 00:57:25,25
individuals were homeless so they're. Most
commonly selected answer was couldn't

721
00:57:25,26 --> 00:57:29,12
find any put any place else to live
so obviously they were unable to find

722
00:57:29,13 --> 00:57:33,13
a place to live and that's where they were
in the homeless category in this other

723
00:57:33,14 --> 00:57:36,85
categories quite large we can talk about
the other category if you want but since

724
00:57:36,86 --> 00:57:43,60
there's only five minutes I
should probably. Continue. So

725
00:57:43,72 --> 00:57:45,22
just to summer there's a lot of words on

726
00:57:45,23 --> 00:57:49,42
a slide I'm definitely not going to read
it I want to just bullet point for you

727
00:57:49,43 --> 00:57:56,01
guys what the key findings
are. So yes we documented

728
00:57:56,63 --> 00:58:02,33
that Hennepin County offenders predatory
offenders required to register are overly

729
00:58:02,34 --> 00:58:06,92
concentrated in the Minneapolis communities
that were highlighted in the resolution

730
00:58:07,63 --> 00:58:13,01
part of the reason we believe is this lack
of affordable housing in other parts of

731
00:58:13,05 --> 00:58:19,87
the county and also landlords and such
that won't rent. Difficulty finding

732
00:58:19,88 --> 00:58:25,95
housing another reason. Has to
do with this if you can't find

733
00:58:25,96 --> 00:58:30,45
a place to live and you're
homeless you have to select

734
00:58:30,46 --> 00:58:34,28
a city where you might register and it seems
Minneapolis is the city that is being

735
00:58:34,29 --> 00:58:40,26
selected because of services
and sports. I think we have

736
00:58:41,11 --> 00:58:41,48
provided

737
00:58:41,49 --> 00:58:47,25
a partial answer to this idea about Hennepin
County receiving portico extra predatory

738
00:58:47,26 --> 00:58:54,25
offenders it seems our team feels the data
is really suggesting that in terms of

739
00:58:54,26 --> 00:58:58,40
a framework for thinking about this rather
than focusing on keeping offenders out

740
00:58:58,41 --> 00:59:02,51
we should be focusing on what to do with
predatory offenders once they're in

741
00:59:02,52 --> 00:59:05,22
Hennepin County so that is

742
00:59:05,23 --> 00:59:10,87
a framework suggestion that will likely
be in our final recommendations. In terms

743
00:59:10,88 --> 00:59:17,07
of our questions around community impact.
We were able to find significant.

744
00:59:18,71 --> 00:59:24,86
National literature on the issue of impact
on housing values we did not test that

745
00:59:25,30 --> 00:59:27,59
in Minneapolis so that's

746
00:59:27,60 --> 00:59:30,72
a finding from the national literature
has not been verified in the Minneapolis

747
00:59:30,73 --> 00:59:34,08
context but it does seem
that predatory offenders in

748
00:59:34,09 --> 00:59:38,68
a neighborhood does decrease housing values
it definitely increases fear of crime

749
00:59:38,75 --> 00:59:43,94
and then obviously whatever the recidivism
rate associated with those vendors as

750
00:59:43,95 --> 00:59:50,78
well but really the issue seems to boil
down to housing housing. Seems to be

751
00:59:51,43 --> 00:59:58,37
the critical component. So next steps
for our team right now we're reviewing

752
00:59:58,94 --> 01:00:04,85
the final report. We hope to complete the
report in August and obviously make it

753
01:00:04,86 --> 01:00:11,43
available and. It will be available on the
new rock website and. The Department of

754
01:00:11,43 --> 01:00:17,41
Civil Rights. So that's the end
of our highlights probably have

755
01:00:17,42 --> 01:00:23,71
a couple minutes for questions or comments
if anybody has any Dr Martin I like to

756
01:00:23,71 --> 01:00:27,31
say that you know when the final report
is done I'm like to have you come back to

757
01:00:27,33 --> 01:00:33,67
our present the final report in the
special So you know have us discuss the

758
01:00:33,67 --> 01:00:39,84
recommendations from that report. But
council members any questions and.

759
01:00:42,15 --> 01:00:45,58
I don't actually have any questions but I
just wanted to emphasize how incredibly

760
01:00:45,59 --> 01:00:51,35
valuable this kind of partnership is the
city has policymakers in the city council

761
01:00:51,36 --> 01:00:56,08
so all the efforts and all the work and
all the energy that went into gathering

762
01:00:56,09 --> 01:01:02,27
this information and bringing more
people into do it it's. So much

763
01:01:03,62 --> 01:01:10,13
consequence and Johnson. I thank
you Mr Chair Ms Martin on the

764
01:01:10,14 --> 01:01:15,32
definitions what would be and when you got
away from the same sex offender and talk

765
01:01:15,33 --> 01:01:20,82
about predatory Is there any other category
of offender that would be predatory but

766
01:01:20,83 --> 01:01:22,87
not a sex offender Yes there's

767
01:01:22,88 --> 01:01:28,82
a small number of individuals who would be
predatory offenders but not. Technically

768
01:01:28,83 --> 01:01:34,51
sex offenders but are our team determined
that we care about those individuals as

769
01:01:34,52 --> 01:01:37,33
well as potentially posing

770
01:01:37,34 --> 01:01:41,25
a risk to we want to include them in
the mix so these are people well.

771
01:01:46,12 --> 01:01:48,53
Mark would you like to it it's

772
01:01:48,54 --> 01:01:54,90
a small number but we thought they were
important to include. Yeah. Council member

773
01:01:54,94 --> 01:02:01,88
charts the definition of predatory
offender Originally it was sex offenders

774
01:02:01,89 --> 01:02:03,57
but the legislature added

775
01:02:03,58 --> 01:02:10,57
a group of offenders who are
charged with kidnapping or false

776
01:02:10,58 --> 01:02:15,91
imprisonment they're also include even
if they have no sexual component of that

777
01:02:15,92 --> 01:02:21,90
they see so that makes up less Mauler
group of those included as predatory

778
01:02:21,91 --> 01:02:27,44
offenders but out to comply with all
registration requirements get risk levels of

779
01:02:27,45 --> 01:02:33,95
society. But they are generally for the
most part even if they go to prison are

780
01:02:33,96 --> 01:02:40,38
generally risk level ones
from sexual. And I see

781
01:02:40,69 --> 01:02:47,42
class is to. Thank you.
Council members any other

782
01:02:47,43 --> 01:02:53,97
questions you have to mourn in your study
said that there is concentrated areas

783
01:02:54,11 --> 01:02:57,72
within him County but there are two
communities specifically in Minneapolis that

784
01:02:57,92 --> 01:02:58,10
have

785
01:02:58,11 --> 01:03:01,56
a high concentration of one of those who
communities I'm sorry can you say that again

786
01:03:01,57 --> 01:03:04,44
where the what the two
communities in Minneapolis have

787
01:03:04,45 --> 01:03:09,57
a high overly concentrated.
Area with sex offenders

788
01:03:11,48 --> 01:03:18,29
Oh so this map shows the two communities
with the outlines OK so north of me I was

789
01:03:18,30 --> 01:03:25,16
in the Phillips It was OK.
And this this map here you

790
01:03:25,17 --> 01:03:30,79
can. You can really see the little circles
kind of came up spots but you can.

791
01:03:31,96 --> 01:03:37,27
Really see it sort of in the darker areas
have pretty higher concentrations so you

792
01:03:37,28 --> 01:03:43,44
can you can zero in there on the
census tracks OK and. You know in

793
01:03:44,29 --> 01:03:49,07
again in one of the slides you you had said
that in certain areas are too few when

794
01:03:49,08 --> 01:03:55,04
words runs into predatory offenders but
in those concentrated areas I mean I mean

795
01:03:55,08 --> 01:03:59,34
it's almost the inverse would you say I
mean in terms of why there might be maybe

796
01:03:59,38 --> 01:04:04,13
a few more landlords who runs the predatory
offenders act right so we didn't do

797
01:04:04,14 --> 01:04:08,56
a survey of landlords so I couldn't I
couldn't say that but it seems they're living

798
01:04:08,57 --> 01:04:15,15
there. Those are the places where they
could find to live so that's how I would

799
01:04:15,61 --> 01:04:22,09
respond OK And you know with the homeless
category that you've explained what's the

800
01:04:22,10 --> 01:04:28,68
percentage of the homeless folks relative
to other sex offenders who have places to

801
01:04:28,69 --> 01:04:35,46
live I don't believe we have
that. The data in our report OK

802
01:04:35,54 --> 01:04:37,91
I mean I would love to see
it just so that we have

803
01:04:37,92 --> 01:04:43,24
a good sense of you know what the numbers
are really in terms of impact is I think

804
01:04:43,25 --> 01:04:46,20
I mean with regards you know what we're
asking we were asking in terms of

805
01:04:46,21 --> 01:04:50,13
residential impacts you know certainly you
know I mean you could be almost anywhere

806
01:04:50,14 --> 01:04:53,33
in the city of Minneapolis but you know
what saying generally speaking that would

807
01:04:53,34 --> 01:04:57,58
mean that you might be living downtown
were some are you know related to you know

808
01:04:58,22 --> 01:05:02,48
were shelters located there you know I
like to just know within the context of

809
01:05:02,49 --> 01:05:06,84
what's you know if I for one or
other areas just to kind of get

810
01:05:06,85 --> 01:05:12,08
a good sense of it and you know my.
Question is with regards to these

811
01:05:12,09 --> 01:05:18,60
recommendations I mean. I feel like the
Council is asking for solutions and what

812
01:05:18,61 --> 01:05:22,85
that means is you know I think I mean one
of the big questions is you know at at

813
01:05:22,86 --> 01:05:24,68
the statue level do we have

814
01:05:24,69 --> 01:05:29,16
a definition for concentration are we going
to move to get the state to define what

815
01:05:29,17 --> 01:05:33,16
concentration is so that if there is
concentration and from what I see here I mean

816
01:05:33,17 --> 01:05:33,42
there is

817
01:05:33,43 --> 01:05:38,04
a concentration up in north Minneapolis in
the fields area that we address that you

818
01:05:38,05 --> 01:05:42,17
know and somehow we address that in some
sort of substantial way and if that means

819
01:05:42,18 --> 01:05:48,33
as you you know alluded to building more
housing have folks live in those housing

820
01:05:48,34 --> 01:05:50,07
so that they don't have these
problems I mean that would be

821
01:05:50,08 --> 01:05:52,22
a good thing but I mean is is that

822
01:05:52,23 --> 01:05:58,02
a part of I guess the game play and define
what concentration really means so I

823
01:05:58,03 --> 01:06:03,51
think our recommendations will not provide
you with a clear definition of what is

824
01:06:03,52 --> 01:06:09,42
a concentration I think I
think our goal is to provide

825
01:06:10,07 --> 01:06:15,58
a framework an information to help homeless
the makers make those decisions to zero

826
01:06:15,59 --> 01:06:22,57
in on the questions. That you want to ask.
So we're not going to I don't believe

827
01:06:22,58 --> 01:06:27,99
our recommendations will be crafted it won't
be so specific as to say we think you

828
01:06:28,00 --> 01:06:30,48
should do X. Y. And Z.

829
01:06:30,48 --> 01:06:36,55
. Specific Legislation or things of that
nature I think what it's hopefully what

830
01:06:36,56 --> 01:06:38,35
will do is it's helped to provide

831
01:06:38,36 --> 01:06:41,95
a framework so that you know you're asking
questions that are pertinent to the data

832
01:06:41,96 --> 01:06:48,11
that that's available so for example you
know if the problem was offenders from

833
01:06:48,12 --> 01:06:51,95
other counties being placed in
Hennepin County that would necessitate

834
01:06:51,96 --> 01:06:58,37
a different fix right but we are information
seems to pretty clearly suggest the

835
01:06:58,42 --> 01:07:03,70
governing offenses originated in Hennepin
County so then the policy solutions will

836
01:07:03,71 --> 01:07:06,68
be within Hennepin County what's happening
within an open County so there's

837
01:07:06,69 --> 01:07:08,41
a different questions that
we would want to ask.

838
01:07:13,30 --> 01:07:18,21
Customer going in committee members one of
the things that we're hoping to use this

839
01:07:18,21 --> 01:07:22,21
research for is in conjunction with work
that's happening with the burn Grant

840
01:07:22,23 --> 01:07:25,68
steering committee and also representing
this information to the Hennepin County

841
01:07:25,69 --> 01:07:29,27
Criminal Justice CORNYN committee I believe
in September because there are some

842
01:07:29,30 --> 01:07:35,76
other efforts ongoing in the city to talk
about public safety strategies and new

843
01:07:35,76 --> 01:07:37,73
policy directions perhaps as

844
01:07:37,74 --> 01:07:41,33
a result of the work that those groups
are doing so where there might not be

845
01:07:41,34 --> 01:07:46,01
specific recommendations coming out of the
action research team there will likely

846
01:07:46,02 --> 01:07:50,77
be specific recommendations coming out of
those other groups but this information

847
01:07:50,79 --> 01:07:57,34
can be used to help inform some of
those things. Come to present Johnson

848
01:07:58,83 --> 01:08:05,82
thank you Mr Terry or you're getting
out. My thoughts as well. You know I

849
01:08:05,83 --> 01:08:12,06
think you have confirmed what we knew
was going on so I think you for that

850
01:08:13,03 --> 01:08:20,01
but you know what's the plan going forward
what's going to be. The plan that

851
01:08:20,01 --> 01:08:25,99
says we can't concentrate you know
sex offenders. You know ex offenders

852
01:08:26,85 --> 01:08:33,50
in this is this is one facet of concentration
of problematic populations in the

853
01:08:33,51 --> 01:08:39,04
community that is. Harmful
to the community.

854
01:08:40,25 --> 01:08:47,22
So I think it's going to be really important
to go beyond the research and and

855
01:08:47,40 --> 01:08:53,01
develop some action steps that are owned
how we deal with this one of the things

856
01:08:53,02 --> 01:08:58,45
that I you know and we've gotten to the
point in earth many of us where you know

857
01:08:58,46 --> 01:09:03,71
people don't even ask for these meetings
anymore because it's just you be asking

858
01:09:03,99 --> 01:09:05,71
four times a month you know in a in

859
01:09:05,72 --> 01:09:11,53
a neighborhood. And this population is
very mobile also still you know every time

860
01:09:11,54 --> 01:09:16,83
they move there's another you know
notification that happens but it's go that was

861
01:09:16,84 --> 01:09:22,11
the other thing it and I thank you so but
about half of the population is without

862
01:09:22,12 --> 01:09:29,05
notification and to so that I hadn't
realized that before thank you for that. I

863
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just think that. This we really have to
think about the impact of this plus all of

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the other challenges that these communities
have but I also want to say that I I

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feel like in my experience with. The sex
offenders that have landed you know on

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live in my ward I have

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a sense that they are well supervised
and that is but half of them

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apparently not the other half you know which
don't have any supervision but people

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that are under supervision
they really keep

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a close eye on them and that is comforting
to neighbors you know that they're they

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can be visited they will be visited that
the requirements of how they behave are

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very stringent and. You know I think
sometimes they're you wish that some of the

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people who are gun offenders had this kind
of supervision when they come back into

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the community so. I just I think the program
itself as far as the supervision goes

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is well managed and there are
frequent cases that it will have

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a notification noticed come out and person
is really offended before people can

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even ask for

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a meeting so it's you know it's moot so I
think the program is well run it will sit

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so I I'm going to close. This discussion
just by saying Courtney is frustrated that

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we keep on doing reports and we don't
have solutions and you know from the

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resolution I mean you know to me it seeks
to addressing the problem and fixing the

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problem and somehow you know going

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a bit further than just studying
the problem because you know

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a soup I want to say I mean Council President
Johnson put it best by just saying

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that I mean this kind of just confirms
what we knew already wall what we're going

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to do about it and. I feel like in some
ways I mean we have to do more than just.

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Studies and reports and we have to go further
and you know I say that just because

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I represent an area where there is

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a huge concentration and it's just unacceptable
mean the folks who live up there or

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do not like that situation I mean they they
you know are frustrated all the time by

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just these problems that persist and you
know I think at some point we need to

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address this and if it means happen at the
state legislature I mean we need to get

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our I G Our new department you know help
us with this the city attorney's office

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everybody else but I mean it's just
frustrating that. You know I think the folks

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are just begging for an answer and it
seems like you know these records mean as

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good as they are in terms of giving us
information and they don't really give us

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the answers that we want
and so you know if it's

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a policy decision then I mean us as the
makers need address this issue thank you

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sir all right. Council President Johnson
did you have anything more to spend OK.

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With than with that being said I will
move that we receive in file this report.

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Any discussion at all those in favor
please say I'm. Any of those motions areas

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Thank you. With that we do not have any
more business before this committee and so

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we will adjourn this meeting Thank you.